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Doom of the Eldar by Technorakel Doom of the Eldar by Technorakel
A commish for about 25. Some nids, some eldars.

I just edited it slightly
and re-edited it again
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Klerych Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
This.. this is the most magnificent Warhammer 40k artwork I have EVER seen. I must commission something from you one day, man..
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Technorakel Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
Then you've never bothered checking out official artworks from the codices. Or, hell, even doing a quick search on deviantart or even google.

It's statistically almost impossible that you're not lying, actually.
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Klerych Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Hmm.. not really. While there were some really epic artworks in the codexes(remember that brilliant one from Black Templars' codex with a Templar fighting retconned Necron Wraith or some of the tyranid artworks, but no codex contains eldritch abomination-themed arts. I just can't imagine how brilliant would be a C'tan drawn by you.

In this one I love that overseer-tyrant-whatthehell thing with lashes the most. And of course the big guy. :D
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Technorakel Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2012
It's still visually inconsistent, with light effects that don't mean shit, with an over-busy composition, barely readable and too static to be dramatic. Take the black and white tyranid illustration by John Blanche: it's ten times more detailed, but readable, harmonious, more alien-looking graphically, and more impressive because there is more depth in the scenery. Or the three latest cover arts of the tyranid codices: each of them features really weird-looking textures, with more characters, doing different things under different angles (rather than just standing there) while being more readable than mine. Hell, most recent codex illustrations also do.

Having tentacles does not suffice to make a picture "eldritch-abomination-themed". It's what I tried to do, but I achieved it much less well than most official GW illustrators, I'm much clumsier and it shows, and if you can't see it, too bad for you.

As for C'tans my gallery already features two, plus an entire folder dedicated to "eldritch abominations". And in order for them to look actually freaky I'd need to master photorealism, so that no matter how weird their design is, it doesn't look stylized enough to be dismissed as something that could not physically be witnessed. And I'm not there yet at all.
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Klerych Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, I am not sure how to say it to not insult the WH40k illustrators, since I love their art, but sometimes it feels.. generic. Most of the Tyranid artworks show them as mindless swarm guided by the Hive Mind. Of course that is true, it works like that, but you managed to show them from a different angle.

This is far more lovecraftian horror than any of the codex arts. Tall monsters pressing against Eldar lines, the Tyrant with whips and of course the big guy tearing his way towards space elves - the pointy ears' impending doom that came from the outer space. Every tyranid you drew here looks like a part of bigger picture. It being an 25€ commission is amazing too. I mean.. did you see how much some people demand for simple sketches/some medium level drawings? I'd expect you to take 50 if not more for this one.

Also - I guess that with additional, let's say, 10€ for the commission you'd add some more detail, put some more effort and stuff like that. Of course I am not saying that you are better than 40k illustrators and I see the differences in the work, but they're professional artists with years of experience in drawing the same 40k stuff for years for living. How old are they? For how long do they work on arts for GW?

While I understand that they might be better at their stuff than you, I think you underestimate your talents and depreciate yourself as an artist, despite you having sum srs skillz. I'm definetely going to commission something from you as soon as I have some spare money. And I have an idea already..
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Technorakel Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
No, actually, even with 25 more euros I wouldn't have been motivated enough to invest the large amounts of efforts required to fix it (that is to say, to re-do it completely, but better). Every nid in this picture looks like a part of a bigger picture because they're all too rushed to work well alone, and in spite of this, the whole thing still looks like a copy/pasting of different pics; it's especially flagrant with the one in the middle, it looks two-dimensional, like it's not even resting on that wraithbone thing, like it's neither in the foreground nor in the middle ground. And in spite of the extensive use of cheap photoshop texture effects, the whole thing still looks ten times less photorealistic than what most GW illustrators can do with only ink and paint.

They look like they're pressing against eldar lines because there are NO eldar lines, just three mooks vaguely sketched out because the composition was too busy already to include more characters, which any GW illustrator would have been able to handle.

And if you actually realize that they're significantly better than me, next time, refrain from automatically spouting stuff like "this is the most magnificent Warhammer 40k artwork I have EVER seen", not only does it make you sound like a fool (like the average DA user, even) but it also doesn't reflect your actual opinion, which is that GW illustrators succeed where I fail, since they're better at what they do, that is exactly what I'm trying to do. Flaws and errors do not a style make, that's why my stuff isn't too expensive.
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Klerych Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, feel free to call me a man with no taste but this is still my favourite WH40k artwork. I am a fan of all the eldritch stuff and I still claim that I haven't seen a more eldritch-themed art for 40,000 in my life. Given that it's my favourite 'theme' and it combines my favourite tabletop game, I guess it's pretty easy to understand my point. Of course there might be someone who would draw/paint something that I would like more than this one, but I haven't seen it yet, thus my initial statement is still valid. Although "magnificent" might have been a wrong word.

And by the additional money I didn't mean fixing this one. More like putting more effort in a new, better paid commish when you'd start with new concept for something different, but this time trying to do things that you weren't fond of in previous artworks in a better way. I mean.. everyone learns from his mistakes, right?

At least you know what you did wrong and will try to improve with next commissions as any artist progresses with his/her artistic skill development.

Long story short - I might have sounded a bit too enthusiastic about it, but despite the purely "technical" flaws I still think it's awesome and stands out when compared to the majority of non-GW artworks for 40k and hits the right spot for me, making it my favourite. It's all about personal preferences.
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Technorakel Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
If you want unarguably eldritch stuff, look for early 40k artwork (Ian Miller, especially), or just for John Blanche's illustrations.

Also, knowing your flaws doesn't make you automatically able to fix them.
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ironsides11 Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2012
WOW!!
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ikiryo-Maki Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2012
*stares...*

dear jebus... i love it.
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